Baby deaths ‘cluster’ at Adelaide’s Women’s and Children’s Hospital prompts official review


Health authorities have launched a review into a “cluster” of baby deaths at Adelaide’s Women’s and Children’s Hospital after a parliamentary committee heard a lack of infant heart and life support services was to blame.

Obstetrician and gynaecologist Professor John Svigos on Tuesday gave evidence that the deaths of three babies over the past month could have been prevented.

Doctors’ union official Bernadette Mulholland told the committee a fourth baby had died last week, also due to the lack of services.

Professor Svigos said the infants could have been saved if the right treatment were available at Adelaide’s central hospital for children.

He said Adelaide was the only mainland state capital city that does not offer heart surgery or external oxygenation machines (ECMOs) for babies and children, and the usual process of referring infants to a Melbourne cardiac unit was “no longer tenable” because of the COVID-19 situation.

SASMOA officer Bernadette Mulholland gave evidence to the committee.(ABC Radio Adelaide: Malcolm Sutton)

Health Minister Stephen Wade announced this morning that SA Health would launch a review into the circumstances surrounding the deaths.

“There has been a cluster of paediatric cardiac incidents in recent weeks, the deaths of children,” Mr Wade said.

“We’re very sad, our thoughts and prayers are with the families.

“I’ve asked the Chief Medical Officer [Dr Mike Cusack] … to work with the Women’s and Children’s Hospital to review these cases, to see what we can learn.”

Dr Cusack said between six and 10 babies with significant heart abnormalities were usually born in SA each year, and that the deaths needed to be investigated.

“As a parent, whenever you read about adverse events in children, it’s always hard to read, and so my heart really does go out to each of the parents.

“Had we provided the very best available care for those children and their families? And what are the lessons learnt?”

But Dr Cusack said, from the information he had at this stage, there was no evidence of any “lapses in care or things that should have been done”.

He said the review would take between two and four weeks and would have a particular focus on the impact of COVID-19 on usual practice.

Business case warned of avoidable death

The State Opposition claims a leaked document shows the Government was advised to introduce cardiac surgery at the Women’s and Children’s Hospital for more than a year before the four babies died.

Labor spokesperson Chris Picton said a business case, prepared by doctors last year, also claimed the lack of cardiac surgery had contributed to at least one avoidable death and several near misses at the time.

The July 2019 business case, which the ABC has seen, stated that a heart surgery service at the hospital “is feasible, safe and cost-effective”.

The document warns of “avoidable mortality” as a result of the lack of an ECMO machine service there, and that “at least one avoidable death has occurred”.

The business case advises the hospital would have to recruit an experienced heart surgeon to establish the service.

It also lists “skill maintenance” as a potential problem, but argues that could be mitigated by having one surgeon perform all procedures and collaborate with adult and interstate surgical services.

Report found service ‘not viable’: Minister

But speaking on ABC Radio Adelaide earlier this morning, Mr Wade said an earlier review had rejected paediatric heart services for the hospital.

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Mr Wade said an earlier review found a paediatric heart service would result in worse outcomes.(ABC News: Lincoln Rothall)

However he said the review had recommended an ECMO machine at the hospital.

The Minister said there was a “diversity of views” among doctors at the hospital about how best to manage the issue and that the hospital’s board was capable of coming to the right solution.

He added that the board had respectfully engaged with the doctors who wrote the July 2019 business case.

He said the board was working to get “the best possible service for babies and children in South Australia”.

Mother joins call for services

Kylie Baker, who has travelled to Melbourne several times since her daughter Abby was born so she could receive life-saving heart surgery, joined the call for paediatric cardiac services to be set up in Adelaide.

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Kylie Baker and her daughter Abby.(ABC News: Lincoln Rothall)

Ms Baker said the trips took a heavy emotional and financial toll.

“If it was in Adelaide, you’ve got family, you’ve got your friends, you’ve got a support network,” she said.

She said she was devastated to learn of the four babies’ deaths.

“It’s heartbreaking and it shouldn’t be happening. These are little babies,” she said.



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Trudeau government pressed to shield secret operational information in court


Failing to address questions about intelligence-sharing in courtrooms could put a number of national security court cases at risk and undermine Ottawa’s national security efforts, warns a grim briefing note prepared for the public safety minister.

At its crux, the issue pits the efforts of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service to safeguard its operational information — its tactics, methods, where its spies are located — against the Department of Justice’s mandate to secure prosecutions and a defendant’s right to a fair trial.

“Failing to address [intelligence and evidence] issues will severely limit the government’s ability to deal with the most serious current and emerging [national security] threats and perpetuate the difficulty experienced in managing lengthy, burdensome court proceedings,” says a briefing note prepared ahead of a meeting between the department of Public Safety and CSIS and obtained by CBC News through an access to information request. 

Leah West, a former federal lawyer who is now a lecturer on national security issues at Carleton University, said security agencies should not have to choose between protecting information and pursuing prosecutions related to terrorism and national security.

“It shouldn’t be this stark of an issue where in order to actually uphold our criminal laws for some of the most grave criminal offences, our security agencies are having to think long and hard about whether it’s worth it,” she said.

“These are activities that we would want to denounce and deter through prosecution. But our agencies are having to wrestle with the fact that, if they pursue those charges … there is a real risk that they will be unsuccessful because of all the tactics … or the national security information that is really highly valuable and simply cannot be revealed will be forced into the light. And that’s problematic.” 

Intelligence vs. evidence

CSIS’s job is to collect intelligence — and to do so secretly — in order to advise the Canadian government and protect the country from threats to national security. Law enforcement agencies also gather information and evidence and make it public to secure a prosecution in court.

“So the problem of intelligence evidence is when information collected by CSIS … for one purpose — and that purpose is really not about making it ever public — ends up having to be used as evidence in a criminal trial, ” said West.

“And that makes our national security agencies very uncomfortable because in order to use it as evidence, it has to be open to be tested. The defence has to have access to it. It has to be revealed publicly and that means potentially revealing all of those secret sources, methods and techniques that they rely on and that has broader implications for national security beyond just getting one conviction in court.”

CSIS obtains information from foreign partners, human sources, warranted intercepts and other covert methods — and tries to keep that intelligence secret. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)

The briefing note warned Public Safety Minster Bill Blair that security agencies are hesitant to share information with the justice system if it could put undercover agents at risk.

“This can lead to a chilling effect at the operational level, as national security (NS) agencies may be reticent to share information or collaborate to address threats to avoid the possibility of open court disclosure of sensitive information,” said the briefing note, which was released with multiple portions blacked out.

“For example, it has been assessed that the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) hesitate to share information in many instances on a particular threat out of concern that intelligence sources or methods could become compromised in a potential future court proceeding, or that evidence that was collected based on an intelligence lead may need to be withdrawn in a potential prosecution if the intelligence itself cannot be protected, thereby weakening the government’s capacity to prosecute, with the net result of reduced public safety.”

Michael Nesbitt, a law professor at the University of Calgary, said that Canada is a “net importer of intelligence” — meaning it receives more intelligence from other counties than it gives out. And often receives important information from allies with the understanding that it will not be made public.

“Let’s take an example of the U.S. having information about a Canadian in Syria. They might provide Canada with that information, which would then cause us to be concerned about a Canadian citizen operating for a terrorist group in Syria. But that information might come with a caveat, and that is that we can’t use that information publicly because the U.S. is concerned about their sources and methods,” he said.

“And obviously that can, in the most extreme situations, scuttle our ability to prosecute someone for, say, a terrorism offence or an espionage offence about which we are worried.”

The issue also plays out in immigration cases, security clearances and decisions regarding passports.

It shouldn’t be this stark of an issue where in order to actually uphold our criminal laws for some of the most grave criminal offences, our security agencies are having to think long and hard about whether it’s worth it.– Leah West, Carleton University professor

A spokesperson for CSIS said the agency obtains information from foreign partners, human sources and “sensitive techniques including warranted intercepts and other covert methods.”

“Disclosing sensitive information could affect CSIS’s ability to protect and recruit human sources. Moreover, it could have a significant impact on CSIS’s relationship with partners and reveal its covert methods,” said John Townsend.

“Protecting CSIS information from disclosure means it cannot be relied upon to support a particular case, decision or action. In some cases, this could lead to the staying of criminal charges, settlements in civil litigation, and the reversal of administrative decisions.”

Charges stayed in alleged Chinese spying case 

The issue has begun to play out in high-profile court cases already. 

Last month, federal prosecutors stayed two of four charges against an engineer accused of offering naval secrets to China — a case that arose from a secretive and controversial CSIS wiretapping campaign against the Chinese embassy in Ottawa.

News of the stayed charges in the Qing Quentin Huang case was first reported by the Globe and Mail.

Huang, an employee of Lloyd’s Register — a subcontractor to Irving Shipbuilding Inc. — was charged back in 2013 under the Security of Information Act with attempting to communicate secrets to a foreign power, including elements of the federal shipbuilding strategy.

Arctic offshore patrol ship components are seen under construction at the Irving shipbuilding facility in Halifax on Friday, March 4, 2016. Qing Quentin Huang, a Canadian citizen and former employee of a subcontractor to the navy’s shipbuilding contractor, Irving Shipbuilding, has had two charges stayed against him. (Andrew Vaughan/The Canadian Press)

“By sharing information with the RCMP — all of the information surrounding that wiretap, why CSIS was wiretapping the Chinese — the evidence put before the court in order to convince the judge that they needed that wiretap all becomes the subject of potential litigation in open court,” said West.

“Which is very, very uncomfortable, not only because of the impact to disclosing potential sources that CSIS may have that would lead them to believe that there’s a threat emanating from the embassy … It also has real implications in terms of international relations, litigating what Canada was investigating China for in open court.”

Huang still awaits trial on two criminal counts relating to conversations he allegedly had with undercover RCMP officers in a sting operation. 

Reform advice redacted 

The briefing note concludes that some kind of policy change needs to be made — although the intelligence agency’s recommendations are also redacted.

“As an example of the challenge, absent a statutory regime that facilitates the simultaneous use and protection of sensitive information in Federal Court reviews of decisions to deny foreign investment on national security grounds under the Investment Canada Act, the government will not be able to confidently rely on intelligence when acting to counter economic-based threats,” the note reads.

“Additionally, reform measures may help protect against a growing trend being employed by defendants and their counsel of seeking disclosure of intelligence that may have informed a criminal investigation and subsequent prosecution.”

Cameron Ortis walks away from the courthouse in Ottawa with his lawyer Ian Carter. (Justin Tang/The Canadian Press)

But coming up with a policy hasn’t been easy for successive governments, dating back to the Air India inquiry.

“This is a really hard problem. If it was an easy problem with an easy solution, we’d probably have the solution,” said Nesbitt. 

CSIS and the RCMP say they’ve already taken steps to better communicate with other early on in a court proceeding — something both West and Nesbitt said they welcome. 

But changes also should be made to the dual-track court system used to deal with intelligence issues, they said.

Right now, criminal cases involving intelligence go to separate hearings in Federal Court where a judge, with help from a special adviser, decides what should be protected under the Canada Evidence Act and held back from disclosure in open court.

The process can slow down an already sluggish trial process — but it’s a key aspect of a defendant’s right to a fair trial.

That process is playing out now in the case against Cameron Orts, the RCMP official accused of leaking operational information, and preparing to leak even more, to a foreign power or terrorist group.

West said changes could be made to streamline the process.

“It makes things very cumbersome, makes things very clunky, and allows the defence to use a variety of kind of procedural tactics to delay prosecution and in some cases avoid prosecution,” she said. 

“I think we need to streamline the legislation so that defence lawyers can’t be playing these games to basically force the Crown to choose between revealing all of the information necessary for proceeding with the prosecution.”

Ian McLeod, a spokesperson for the Department of Justice, said it would be inappropriate to speculate or comment on any specific potential legislative reforms.

In an effort to deal with the issue, the RCMP said it commissioned a review of how its national security program operates.

“These reviews identified that there was much that could be done operationally to help address intelligence as evidence challenges, such as, but not limited to: new policies to improve how intelligence is handled; improving training; and more effectively leveraging existing mechanisms to protect intelligence such as the Canada Evidence Act,” said spokesperson Robin Percival.

“Efforts to implement these operational improvements are underway.”

Nesbitt said the government’s promise to appoint a new director of terrorism prosecutions looks promising, although it’s not clear when that office will be up and running.

“It’s a little bit unclear what that would mean or where that stands, given the pandemic has arisen since that announcement. But that might be another thing where you get sort of specialized legal training and that could create cultural shifts,” he said.

The last public mandate letters to Public Safety Minisster Bill Blair and Justice Minister David Lametti (new ones are expected to be made public soon) ask both ministers to “coordinate efforts to prosecute terror suspects to the fullest extent of the law” and create a new office of the Director of Terrorism Prosecutions.

“This work is ongoing,” said Mary-Liz Power, a spokesperson for Blair.

“It is critical we address the intelligence to evidence challenges that face us today to support the successful prosecution of those individuals who have committed criminal acts, both in Canada and abroad.”



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BJP demands Mehbooba Mufti’s arrest over Jammu and Kashmir flag comment


She has been trolled widely also on social media platforms for her remarks.

SRINAGAR: Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has demanded the arrest of former chief minister and PDP president Mehbooba Mufti after she said she won’t hold any other flag unless and until Jammu and Kashmir’s state flag is restored.

The Congress also criticised her for showing disrespect to the national flag. She has been trolled widely also on social media platforms for her remarks.

 

On Friday, Mehbooba, while addressing her maiden press conference after her release from a 14-month-long detention, said she won’t raise any flag other than that of the erstwhile state of Jammu and Kashmir till its special status is restored.

“I won’t hold any other flag until our state flag is returned”, she said when asked about her statement that there would be no one left in J-K to raise the Indian national flag if Article 370 was abrogated that she gave days before the erstwhile state was stripped of its special status and split up into two Union Territories on August 5 last year.

Narinder Raina, president of BJP’s J-K unit termed Mufti’s remarks as “seditious” and said she should be booked for the same and arrested immediately. Asserted that “no power on earth can either hoist the state flag again or restore Article 370”, he told reporters in winter capital Jammu, “I request Lieutenant Governor Manoj Sinha to take cognisance of the seditious remarks of Mehbooba Mufti, book her for the seditious act and put her behind bars.”

 

Raina pledged to “shed every drop of our blood for our flag, country and motherland” and said that J-K is an integral part of the country and, therefore,  only one flag can be hoisted here and that is the national flag. He further said that the BJP will “not tolerate such nefarious designs aimed at instigating the people of Kashmir.”

The BJP leader said that if Kashmiri leaders are feeling insecure in India, they can go to Pakistan and China. A group of BJP activists held a protest demonstration against the PDP chief in frontier district of Kupwara.

The J-K Pradesh Congress also criticised Mufti over her remarks and said these were highly provocative and irresponsible and have hurt the sentiments of the people and hence are condemned. “Such statements are intolerable and unacceptable in any society,” JKPCC chief spokesperson Ravinder Sharma said.

 

He asserted that the tricolor is the symbol of “honour for the country and reminds of the sacrifices of crores of Indians to achieve freedom and to protect the dignity, honour and the territorial integrity of the country”. He added the statements like the one made by the PDP chief  will defeat the democratic and constitutional struggle for achieving any just right and urged her to desist from such utterances.

Mufti was also trolled widely on social media. But defending herself, she tweeted on Saturday that the tricolour “stands for diversity and  peaceful coexistence amongst all. If anyone has insulted the tiranga it is BJP that persecutes minorities  and  sows division and hatred.” She added that the national flag  was “disrespected the day BJP leaders carried it (at a rally) to justify rapists of a 9-year-old (nomadic girl in J-K’s Kathua district). Spare me the lessons”.

 



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Meet the brothers who have turned grandma’s Caribbean recipes into a cookbook – Channel 4 News


They didn’t have formal training.

But Shaun and Craig McAnuff did have their gran’s recipes – brought with her when she arrived in the UK as part of the Windrush generation.

Four years ago, the brothers self-published a Caribbean cookery book, inspired by the old family favourites.

It became a bestseller, landing them a publishing deal.

But why is it so hard for Caribbean chefs to make it to the top in British cuisine?

Our reporter Jordan Jarrett-Bryan went to meet them.



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Transfer rumours: Kabak, Rice, Wilshere, Romero, Pochettino, McGurk, White


Liverpool have opened talks with Schalke about a £20m new year move for Turkey defender Ozan Kabak, 20, following the long-term injury to Netherlands defender Virgil van Dijk. (Sunday Mirror)external-link

Chelsea are still intent on signing West Ham midfielder Declan Rice, 21, in the January transfer window, although the Hammers are prepared to give the England international a new contract which would double his £60,000-a-week wages. (Star on Sunday)external-link

Former Arsenal and England midfielder Jack Wilshere, 28, is favouring a move to the MLS as he looks for a new club after leaving West Ham. (Sunday Mirror)external-link

The Premier League is hoping to persuade Fifa to allow a ‘margin of error’ on tight offside calls, with referees’ chief Mike Riley set to speak to Dutch Eredivisie bosses after they brought in a 10cm ‘linesman’s call’. (Mail on Sunday)external-link

Manchester United’s Argentina goalkeeper Sergio Romero wants to leave Old Trafford. The 33-year-old hopes an agreement can be reached for his contract to be terminated after finding out on social media he had been dropped from United’s Premier League squad. (Star on Sunday)external-link

Real Madrid have contacted former Tottenham and Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino about the possibility of replacing Zinedine Zidane. (El Transistor, in Spanish)external-link

Leeds want to make another attempt to sign Wigan’s 17-year-old English midfielder Sean McGurk, having had a bid turned down by administrators in the last transfer window. (Sun on Sunday)external-link

Brighton boss Graham Potter has dismissed speculation linking English defender Ben White, 23, with a move to Liverpool as “football noise”. (Sunday Mirror)external-link

Former Brighton defender turned BBC pundit Mark Lawrenson says White could follow in his footsteps by moving to Liverpool, but does not think the Premier League champions will complete a deal in the next transfer window. (Argus)external-link

Fulham boss Scott Parker admits his future is out of his hands after a fifth defeat in six Premier League matches. (Sky Sports)external-link

Tottenham boss Jose Mourinho has called on chairman Daniel Levy to back him by evolving the team through the transfer market as Liverpool have done in recent years. (Sunday Express)external-link

Wolves, West Ham, Crystal Palace, Southampton and Newcastle are monitoring 27-year-old Reading captain Liam Moore. (TeamTalk)external-link

Manchester United boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer reassured Netherlands midfielder Donny van de Beek, 23, that his time will come at Manchester United after he was an unused substitute in the 0-0 draw against Chelsea on Saturday. (Manchester Evening News)external-link

Solskjaer decided that the Manchester United team should stay together in the Lowry Hotel before Saturday’s match, for the first time since their 2-1 win over Manchester City in March. (Star on Sunday)external-link

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp says selling English striker Rhian Brewster, 20, to Sheffield United “was really hard”. (Sunday Express)external-link

Southampton’s England left-back Ryan Bertrand, 31, has given his support to the Premier League’s No Room For Racism campaign after revealing his own experiences of abuse as a child. (Sunday Mirror)external-link

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NRL grand final 2020: Penrith Panthers v Melbourne Storm, Phil Gould swears, bias commentary


Channel 9 commentator Phil Gould had an unfortunate slip of the tongue during the Penrith Panthers v Melbourne Storm grand final — as many experts on social media also questioned the impartiality of his commentary.

The unfortunate faux pas was that Gould claimed the Panthers were still in the game when they went 16-0 down after Suliasi Vunivalu intercept try.

Brandon Smith was down and receiving treatment after a late hit by Panthers prop James Fisher-Harris. Smith was badly winded and the Panthers front-rower was later placed on report after the interchange utility left the field.

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But as he reacted to the images, Gould made a crucial blunder.





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Naisarani joins Wallabies training camp


World Cup No.8 Isi Naisarani has joined the Wallabies training camp as they look to bolster their back-row for the third Bledisloe CupTest against the All Blacks on Saturday.

The Melbourne Rebels big man was a surprise omission from the initial 44-man squad but has been given a second chance to impress Australia’s Test coach Dave Rennie.

Naisarani was slow to return in Super Rugby AU from a serious hamstring injury, with the Rebels holding him back after he failed to meet fitness and weight standards.

Rennie gave the 25-year-old similar feedback but he has been training in Canberra since in the hope of forcing his way into the Wallabies squad.

The Australians are still to settle on a back-row combination, with Rennie making changes after their 16-16 draw in the first Test and flagging more following their 27-7 second Test defeat in Auckland, although Naisarani is unlikely to be straight into the selection mix.

Brumbies hooker Connal McInerney has also joined the squad, replacing Waratahs rake Tom Horton.

After two matches in enemy territory Wallabies prop Scott Sio says the Wallabies can’t wait to be back in front of a home crowd at Sydney’s ANZ Stadium.

Families of some of the players have joined them in camp in the Hunter, in a morale boost for those such as Marika Koroibete who hasn’t been able to see his Melbourne-based family for months.

After the promising draw and disappointing loss, the Australians need a victory to keep the four-Test series alive.

“It’s massive to be at ANZ,” Sio said.

“We know how passionate our fans are, so to be able to play in front of many people with gold jerseys on is very special to us.

“Just being back at home you can feel the vibe – everyone got a bit of time to see family, partners and kids and it’s created a lot of positivity in and around the group which is something I think we can put into our week.”

Sio said they had clear ideas about what needed improvement – namely missed tackles, which was almost double New Zealand’s tally, and a better kicking game.

The forward felt the team’s kicking problems were related to tackling, given the pressure they put on themselves at Eden Park.

“Obviously there were many parts of the game where we need to be better as a team if we want to beat the All Blacks,” Sio said.

“Playing positionally – within our kicking game I don’t think we gave ourselves the best chance to cut space down.

“They’ve got a pretty electric back three and if you give them time and space they’re very talented.

“The most important thing we took out of that game was kicking on our terms technically and making sure we’re set early in the defensive line so we can make the right reads.”

While the All Blacks arrived in Sydney on Sunday the Wallabies will remain in the Hunter until Thursday.





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AFL Grand Final 2020: Geelong, list, Patrick Dangerfield midfield time, Chris Scott press conference, premiership window, trade period, Jeremy Cameron, analysis


Geelong’s premiership hopes were dashed from the 20-minute mark of the second quarter on Saturday night.

After a period of absolute dominance in general play and time in forward half for middling reward, Geelong were confronted by a Richmond side that had not only ducked and weaved out from the corner, but had begun to land some damaging punches of their own for the first time.

Dustin Martin landed a haymaker to close the second term. Geelong fans had flashbacks to the 2019 preliminary final lead they squandered against the Tigers. By the end of the night, Martin would add three more goals to cap a reversal on the stats sheet that will leave Cats fans pining over what could have been if not for wasted opportunities.

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The good, the bad and the ugly of season 2020


Richmond’s grand final triumph capped off an extraordinary year of football, both on-field and off.

Greats of the game were farewelled, players, coaches and club officials adjusted to the demands of hub life with varying degrees of success, and AFL fans up north were gifted the opportunity to watch the biggest game of the year up close.

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All-in-all it’s been a big year in footy, as captured by artist Jim Pavlidis in his 2020 poster special.

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Women on flight from Qatar to Australia reportedly searched on tarmac after human foetus found in Doha airport bathroom



The Australian Government has registered “serious concerns” with Qatar after women on board a flight from Doha to Sydney were subjected to an invasive internal examination.

Seven News reports that airline staff at Hamad International Airport in Doha discovered a deceased premature baby in a terminal bathroom earlier this month.

Airline staff then reportedly took matters into their own hands.

Women on board a flight that was bound for Sydney, including 13 Australians, were detained and forced to undergo an examination in an ambulance parked on the tarmac.

According to the report, the women had their genitals invasively examined without consent and were not told why.

The Australian Government says it is aware of what it has described as “concerning reports”.

A spokesman for the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade said it had raised the incident with Qatar.

“We have formally registered our serious concerns regarding the incident with Qatari authorities and have been assured that detailed and transparent information on the event will be provided soon,” he said.



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