Esther Rantzen and Kirstie Allsop p have very different opinions when it comes to celebrating Christmas this year.
The pair clashed over the government’s restrictions surrounding the festive period, as they both plan to celebrate the 25th in very different ways.
Appearing on Channel 4 News, the topic of coronavirus restrictions at Christmas time was discussed, and Esther’s view dramatically clashed with Kirstie’s.
Esther, 80, said: “I know that we love to hug and cuddle each other. Don’t think I don’t miss the hugs of the five-year-olds, and the seven-year-olds and the three-year-olds in my life – I miss them every day.
“But on the other hand, if my kids had to think of this Christmas as being the Christmas that killed granny, I don’t think they’d forgive themselves.
“The thing I wouldn’t forgive is if I took up a bed in ICU that somebody who really needed it and deserved should have it because I’d been selfish.”
Disagreeing with Esther’s view, Kirstie said: “I don’t think we can judge those people who can’t make that decision. I think there are people who desperately need those hugs and those kisses and they can’t wait.”
She went on: “Their circumstances are that June is too late. We know how many people are going to die through nothing to do with Covid. Far more people are going to die in 2021 from cancer, from Parkinson’s, from Alzheimer’s, from dementia, from heart disease, from stroke.
“All these other things, and those family members cannot be condemned for wanting that physical contact. And we all know we can self-isolate for 10 days, get in the car and drive to see family members and give them a hug without putting them at risk.”
Pointing out just how confusing the coronavirus guidelines are, Esther said: “I think this is all very confusing.”
She added: “I have never heard a doctor say, ‘All you’ve got to do if you want to meet someone who is vulnerable is wait 10 days’. No doctor has ever said that.”
To which Kirstie responded: “They have said that, they absolutely have said that.”
“No they haven’t,” Esther answered back, highlighting the tension between the two.
Kirstie went on: “Esther we know that people have made television. We had all those people who made all those television shows and that’s what they did.”
She added: “Let’s take I’m A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here – all those people were allowed to mix without infecting each other because they self-isolated before they made those TV shows.”
And when quizzed on whether she would still abide by the rules if the government made a U-turn on their relaxed Christmas restrictions, Kirstie said: “It’s not about me. Every family has a right to make a personal decision to assess their risk for their loved ones and their family members.”
Esther: “I don’t think we have the right to make individual decisions. I think this is too big for that.”
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